tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3295328575953992372.post8100956591892444789..comments2024-03-21T03:04:18.673-04:00Comments on Unapologetica: Behind the CurveRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07883500968749756873noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3295328575953992372.post-31936859519438473872013-01-27T13:56:02.869-05:002013-01-27T13:56:02.869-05:00"If salvation is by grace alone, there is no ..."If salvation is by grace alone, there is no relevance if it is through faith - because God is not moral or ontologically bound to save anyone."<br /><br />I would say God is not <i>extrinsically</i> obligated or bound to save anyone. But I don't think election is arbitrary. <br /><br />In any case, I contest the position that salvation can be by grace alone on Arminianism. Grace is certainly a necessary condition for salvation, but it is not a sufficient condition.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07883500968749756873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3295328575953992372.post-14810511519161586612013-01-27T10:15:38.541-05:002013-01-27T10:15:38.541-05:00I think the problem is in 'salvation by grace ...I think the problem is in 'salvation by grace alone'.<br /><br />If salvation is by grace alone, there is no relevance if it is through faith - because God is not moral or ontologically bound to save anyone. Faith is not a 'completion of Christ's work' and also is not a 'currency exchange'.<br /><br />Faith is not meritorious in Arminianism, because God is not obliged to save anyone - even the faithful one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3295328575953992372.post-69015971355026257262011-10-13T05:36:28.324-04:002011-10-13T05:36:28.324-04:00Yea, I always thought that distinction was pretty ...Yea, I always thought that distinction was pretty basic and common sense, though I've seen a few Calvinists who don't even believe in eternal justification but deny faith is a condition for justification.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07883500968749756873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3295328575953992372.post-14073266220545846142011-10-12T16:45:30.092-04:002011-10-12T16:45:30.092-04:00I touch on this in my book on the covenant theolog...I touch on this in my book on the covenant theology section. Of God's Covenant with Christ and Man. Turretin and Rutherford distinguished between a condition as a meritorious cause and condition as an instrument of application.Drake Sheltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05925446446813424725noreply@blogger.com